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  • May 28, 2011 at 9:23 am #81665
    adriano.digiovanni
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    Hi all,
    I’m going to buy a voice box.
    I would like to hear from you what about mic muting while on stage: I’m a live looper, I sing and play guitar or electronic drums and I need to mute the mic ouput while not singing in order to avoid the mic to capture sounds while recording/overdubbing other instruments.

    Thanks in advance,
    Adriano

    May 28, 2011 at 6:26 pm #115345
    Cryabetes
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    is, at some point, the only mic signal passed along a 1/4″ cable? and do you have a spare distortion pedal [doesn’t matter what kind, so long as it has a ‘level’ control]?

    put the distortion to mute everything and put it after the voicebox.

    May 29, 2011 at 8:13 am #115354
    adriano.digiovanni
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    Thank for your reply, Cryabetes.
    Is there another way? I would like to avoid unbalancing the signal because voice-box goes straight to the mixer (I have three inputs to manage: voice, acoustic guitar and electronic drums).

    Thanks again,
    Adriano

    May 29, 2011 at 2:08 pm #115355
    Cryabetes
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    do you have an insert on the mixer? you could put the mute-in on that. Otherwise I’m not currently aware of any mute/muteable pedals with xlrs.

    June 3, 2011 at 11:50 pm #115431
    adriano.digiovanni
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    No inserts, Cryabetes.
    I found only one answer to my question: http://www.radialeng.com/re-hotshot-dm1.htm
    I’m going to think about alternate solutions in order to avoid wasting my money.

    Thanks for your replies,
    Adriano

    June 4, 2011 at 8:43 am #115432
    adriano.digiovanni
    Participant

    What about KillSwitch? Has it TRS i/o?

    June 4, 2011 at 10:11 pm #115436
    Cryabetes
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    nope. what looper are you using, that it takes balanced ins?

    June 5, 2011 at 8:27 am #115440
    adriano.digiovanni
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    No balanced ins, Cryabetes.
    I use an EHX 2880.
    I asked the same question to loopers delight mailing list users.
    They all say I have to put the looper in the aux send of a mixer.
    I could use a Behringer UB1202.
    What about looper ouput? Do I have to send it back to the mixer?

    Thanks again,
    Adriano

    June 5, 2011 at 2:46 pm #115441
    Cryabetes
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    you don’t have to send it back into the mixer [although you can make feedback loops, if you’re into that]. and the 2880 is unbalanced inputs anyways. and the 1202 is unbalanced outs. but yeah. the Aux send method would work. then just turn down the mic channel’s aux send .

    do you run stereo-in to PA systems or do you sum to mono? [this is just my idle mind a-questionin’]

    June 5, 2011 at 3:18 pm #115442
    adriano.digiovanni
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    With the help from you and other guys at loopers delight I now think

    mixer aux send (mono) > ehx 2880 left input
    ehx 2880 L/R outputs > mixer stereo returns or stereo channel

    This way you can

    mute a channel;
    send it to the looper only (channel aux send turned up, channel fader all the way down);
    send it to the main mix only (channel aux send all the way down, fader turned up).

    Mixer aux send must be pre-fader in order to avoid doubling any input in the main mix (i.e. guitar from the mixer channel and from the looper output).

    Sending looper outputs back to the mixer is useful just because you can sing while recording/overdubbing a guitar phrase onto the looper.

    Mixer stereo output is sent to the P.A.

    What do you think about this setup? Am I wrong?

    UB1202 has post-fader aux send.

    I’m going to sell hardware I don’t use anymore. I would like to buy a Mackie 802-VLZ3

    http://www.mackie.com/products/802vlz3/

    Thanks again,
    Adriano

    June 5, 2011 at 4:44 pm #115443
    Cryabetes
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    two things with that- one is, assuming the send is post-fader, you won’t be able to send to looper only- you’ll need some volume to send TO to the looper, yeah?
    the second- the avoiding doubling for inputs- easily avoided with the 2880. just turn the dry slider off/all the way down.
    otherwise, i think you’ve got it.

    June 5, 2011 at 5:06 pm #115444
    adriano.digiovanni
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    First thing: if the send is post-fader, you’re right. That’s why a pre-fader one is desirable.
    Second thing: you’re a genius. Turning the dry slider all the way down I can use my UB1202.

    Last question: ehx 2880 input unity gain is about half way. Isn’t it?

    Many thanks,
    Adriano

    June 5, 2011 at 7:05 pm #115445
    Cryabetes
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    nope. the sliders work in a reductionist sense only. unity gain is maxed. allows for William Basinski style fadeouts if you’re recording a track [as it will apply resistance to the data in the track and it will get softer and softer each time], but also prevents the tracks from getting louder and louder every repeat [which, I suppose, is rather William Basinski-esque too].

    June 5, 2011 at 8:40 pm #115447
    adriano.digiovanni
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    Cryabetes, I’m talking about the input L and R knobs. Not the sliders. What about the first ones?

    June 5, 2011 at 8:54 pm #115448
    Cryabetes
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    oh that kind of just depends on what you’re throwing at it. I’ve never had to turn mine up at all. weak signals you might need a bit but with the aux out of the mixer, you should be fine with them at zero. use your ears and the headphone jack on the 2880 [with the dry signal slider up] and balance it so there isn’t hum.

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