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  • #80955
    stidic
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    I like ehx-pedals a lot! My pedalboard is overcrowded with them.

    On the recordings of my live performances I hear in the quieter moments the clicks of my favorite pedals.

    Do you have suggestions to make them more quiet?

    #112502
    efilho
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    I like ehx-pedals a lot! My pedalboard is overcrowded with them.

    On the recordings of my live performances I hear in the quieter moments the clicks of my favorite pedals.

    Do you have suggestions to make them more quiet?

    My EHX Chorus does that.

    Before you start playing, try turning down the volume on your amp and stomp ON/OFF on all your pedals.

    Ed

    #112503
    BlueSteel
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    yea, when i like first turn on my small clone when i play my guitar, i get a tiny pop. but now i know to turn down the volume and turn them on and off, thanks for that advice efilho!!

    #112506
    stidic
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    Hi, thanks for your answers, but I mean the physical clicks made by the knobs itself…
    Is there a way to mute or muffle them?
    Or are there any suggestions to replace them?

    #112510
    electro-melx
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    Hi, thanks for your answers, but I mean the physical clicks made by the knobs itself…
    Is there a way to mute or muffle them?
    Or are there any suggestions to replace them?

    There isn’t really much you can do about it, it’s just a fact that a triple pole heavy duty mechanical switch will be quite clunky. If i’m honest I hate the things, I wish someone would design a ‘softer’ one…. I use ‘alpha’ switches in pedals I’m building for myself (which are much less clunky) but they only come in double pole, so you’d have to get rid of the led or build a circuit for the led (millenium bypass) neither of which is ideal…. but it’s possible if you know someone who knows what they are doing.

    #112511
    julian
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    Part of the reason isn’t always the switches themselves, sometimes it can be the LEDs drawing a lot of current when they come that makes it pop.

    Here are some solutions:

    1. Pulldown resistors. Solder a 1 megohm resistor from input to ground and from output to ground. This can in some cases pull down the pop and make the pedal more silent.

    2. Millenium Bypass. It slowly powers the LED up so that the LED doesn’t make noise. It looks cool too! http://www.geofex.com/article_folders/millenium/millen.htm I believe you can get circuit boards for the millenium bypass at Geofex. Or you could just get a 1″ protoboard from Sparkfun. It’s a simple circuit so point to point on a protoboard shouldn’t be too hard.

    3. “clickless true bypass” http://www.clicklesstruebypass.com/ It uses an integrated circuit controlled by a momentary footswitch.

    The other solution would be just to come up with a work around in recording. If you’ve got a mixing board (which even if you’re recording into a computer I think you should) put the pedal in the FX loop and have someone turn it on by fading it in when you want it.

    #112516
    stidic
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    Thanks for your dedicated answers.
    The main thing that bothers me are effectively the sound produced by the mechanical switches. (I hear the difference with pops of LEDs)
    In loud volume settings you won’t hear the clicks, but when I create live soundscapes with hazarai as a looper, and a freeze as a droner, ect… and these recordings are your records (space is content), than in the mastering I have remove all the clicks in the calmer parts :-(
    And not only in recordings, but also live it bothers me when I create a ambiance mood, and than suddenly you hear : CLICK! (Aargh)
    And again, EHX suits tonewise completely my pleasures (no, I won’t buy a boss or digitech pedal for looping) but why does for example my eventide pitchfactor has the same looking buttons, but sound softly?
    Probably it has something to do with what electro-melx says, a double pole situation… why but why… :facepalm:

    #112527
    Ned Flanders
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    True bypass (or any mechanical bypass) isn’t all it made out to be as people are slowly learning…

    #112529
    efilho
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    True bypass (or any mechanical bypass) isn’t all it made out to be as people are slowly learning…

    Agreed. Unless you can clearly idenify a problem with your buffered pedals… don’t mess with it!

    I’ve got a messy combination of TB pedals and Buffered pedals. Plus a line driver embedded on my pedalboard, wich works wonders for one of my guitars (tele with passive, low gain pickups).

    Haven’t really had any noticeable problems with my pedals. Only thing is that some combinations of DIST/OD pedals gives me some volume drop. But to blame that solely on the buffers is a bit of a gamble.

    TB has it’s applications. So do buffers on pedals.

    #112694
    stidic
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    I have a dark-brown feeling that there is no answer to my question…

    #112701
    efilho
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    I have a dark-brown feeling that there is no answer to my question…

    HAH! Those are the questions worth asking!

    Anyway… you can try one of those pedal switching things… but a good one would cost US$500+

    Your pedals would be always on and would be included/excluded from the signal path depending on how you configure your banks.
    Some of the brands that have this:
    – Carl Martin
    – Voddo Labs
    – Rocktron
    – Cusack

    Good luck!

    Ed

    #112708
    Cryabetes
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    Anyway… you can try one of those pedal switching things… but a good one would cost US$500+

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    #112794
    efilho
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    Anyway… you can try one of those pedal switching things… but a good one would cost US$500+

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