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  • October 19, 2010 at 2:08 am #80879
    red-strat
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    please help, when i play my standard big muff through my peavey valveking 112 combo amp, i cant get enough volume out of it but its only noticable when the amp is wound up halfway or more and if i turn the sustain up to a quarter or more it just feeds back. i have tried it through the effects loop in every position and before the amp but it just does the same thing. I bought a trex fuel tank to power it but its no different then when i used to use an adaptor. please help me i love the sound of the big muff fuzz, but I just cant use it playing live.

    October 19, 2010 at 5:49 pm #112038
    Kitrae
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    Sounds like the BMP is defective. Have you tried it on other amps, or tried other pedals with that amp to be sure it is not an amp problem?

    October 19, 2010 at 5:58 pm #112039
    The EH Man
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    +1 on that. Also, maybe your amp just won’t go any louder.

    October 19, 2010 at 9:14 pm #112041
    Ned Flanders
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    BTW, feedback is part of any high gain device and is normal.

    October 20, 2010 at 3:39 am #112053
    red-strat
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    I appreciate you getting back to me, obviously i have other pedals running through the amp and there is no issue with them, like i said the volume on the amp is fine, the pedal just cant keep up with it and the volume drops down when i turn it on, and yes i have the big muff turned up.

    October 20, 2010 at 9:48 am #112050
    electro-melx
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    I appreciate you getting back to me, obviously i have other pedals running through the amp and there is no issue with them, like i said the volume on the amp is fine, the pedal just cant keep up with it and the volume drops down when i turn it on, and yes i have the big muff turned up.

    something to try…

    take all your other pedals out of the chain so you just have guitar, big muff, amp… then turn your amp down to a quarter volume (on it’s cleanest channel)… what happens then?

    October 21, 2010 at 1:49 am #112063
    red-strat
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    it works great when the amp is at a quarter volume, but once i turn the amp up to half, the big muff’s volume is maxed out and it can bearly keep up. If i turn the amp up further, the amp itself goes louder but when i turn the pedal on its quite a noticable drop down in volume.

    October 21, 2010 at 11:07 am #112069
    electro-melx
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    it works great when the amp is at a quarter volume, but once i turn the amp up to half, the big muff’s volume is maxed out and it can bearly keep up. If i turn the amp up further, the amp itself goes louder but when i turn the pedal on its quite a noticable drop down in volume.

    It sounds to me like your amp is just running out of headroom, so the volume of the pedal is just creating more distortion and compression. If it works fine with lower volumes on the amp then it doesn’t sound like there is anything wrong with the pedal.

    October 25, 2010 at 5:15 am #112153
    red-strat
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    i dont know how much easier i could explain it but the boss distortion pedal i have works great and can operate at louder volumes with no problems so i think ill stick to that brand.

    October 26, 2010 at 5:55 am #112182
    noisepunk3
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    It sounds to me like your amp is just running out of headroom, so the volume of the pedal is just creating more distortion and compression. If it works fine with lower volumes on the amp then it doesn’t sound like there is anything wrong with the pedal.

    Okay, so this sounds like the same issue I may be having with mine. Works fine on it’s own, works fine when the amp is at lower volume, but when I’m using it on stage in my board… volume drop…

    So here’s my question (since my question in it’s own thread about modding the pedal yielded nothing on that; funny to me considering big-muff clones don’t have an issue, you’d think someone would’ve figured out how to integrate that aspect of the clone circuit into the standard circuit), or two questions… 1) why don’t other fuzzes, specifically things like the hoof, also do this? 2) how do you get your big muff and/or amp to not do this?

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