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February 17, 2010 at 10:01 pm #79900stanford23Member
I just bought a Stereo Memory Man and everything works very well except in the loop mode. At the end of every loop that I record no matter the length (ie, 5 sec, 10, or even 30 sec) there is a pause on the end of the loop in playback. It lasts only about a second or so but it’s there. As anyone else experienced this and can it be fixed or should I just return the unit for another one?
February 18, 2010 at 12:57 am #107644BlueSteelParticipantare you sure that you’re putting your foot on the switch at the exact moment you start playing and off the switch the exact moment you stop playing? because i had trouble with that at first but you’ll get used to it.
March 9, 2010 at 1:17 am #108276tweedsuitcaseMembermine is doing this exact same thing. i even tried playing a constant keyboard note, and making a loop of that, so i knew it wasn’t my timing. still a hiccup/gap in the loop. really frustrating. i love this pedal otherwise. any ideas?
March 9, 2010 at 5:31 pm #108318Folkstone57MemberHello All,
I have a feeling that the SMM does not do an auto-crossfade or does a not very accurate one. I do mostly ambient stuff so there is a lot of room to allow spaces. I’m going to try some percussion loops to see how it works but it definitely takes some careful footwork to make sure you get into & out of the loop at the right times. It’s not like a sampler that allows you to edit the loop & do all that full stuff to make perfect loops.March 10, 2010 at 4:44 am #108334tweedsuitcaseMemberthanks, i’ll look forward to what you find out. weird though. like i said, i tried recording a constant keyboard note to rule out my own bad timing, and there still was a gap. i resigned myself to just using the loop function for ambient stuff too, but the gap is so noticable.
wondering if it’s a bad switch, or something to do with that 1/2 second it takes to know if it’s tap tempo or a recording. maybe there’s supposed to be a buffer there that’s missing in me and the OP’s unit.March 10, 2010 at 5:34 pm #108356Folkstone57MemberHello,
I found the gap you are referring to but I’m not sure why it’s there other than the reasons I wrote in my previous post. Perhaps a EHX person could comment here?March 11, 2010 at 2:48 am #108381Mr.GrimMemberi have noticed the gap as well, but its not a problem any more. its like a whole new instrument, it takes time to practice using it and getting the footswitch timing right, if done correctly i hear no gaps.
June 7, 2010 at 2:12 pm #102675mikeehealthMemberHi! I found that with mine also. At first I thought it may be a fault as I was used to doing loops on a 202 sampler(with a 202 you edit out the gap) I have found that with practice you can get it so it loops good and if your playing in a band situation it wouldnt be noticed ( as long as you got it in time haha!)
June 7, 2010 at 2:53 pm #102655Folkstone57MemberQuote:Hi! I found that with mine also. At first I thought it may be a fault as I was used to doing loops on a 202 sampler(with a 202 you edit out the gap) I have found that with practice you can get it so it loops good and if your playing in a band situation it wouldnt be noticed ( as long as you got it in time haha!)Hello,
I would think using it live would present it’s own problems since I’ve only recorded with mine & it usually takes a few tries to get the part I’m recording to not get chopped at the loop. I just bought a BOSS Slicer & although I recorded several loops with it I’ve never had the problem of the part getting chopped off. :thumb: So, there must be some difference even though it could be just the nature of the SMM being more sensitive to the recorded part. I’ve also found that timing my loop so that the part finished before I stop the loop helps. Often, I record the part at double tempo & 1 octave up so that I can then pitch down an octave. For free tempo stuff this works great & of course if the end is say 2 seconds before I stop the loop, it becomes 4 when I pitch the loop down. Still, a big wish is to be able to record across the loop without the part being chopped or glitched. :facepalm:June 8, 2010 at 9:00 am #102373mikeehealthMemberQuote:Quote:Hi! I found that with mine also. At first I thought it may be a fault as I was used to doing loops on a 202 sampler(with a 202 you edit out the gap) I have found that with practice you can get it so it loops good and if your playing in a band situation it wouldnt be noticed ( as long as you got it in time haha!)Hello,
I would think using it live would present it’s own problems since I’ve only recorded with mine & it usually takes a few tries to get the part I’m recording to not get chopped at the loop. I just bought a BOSS Slicer & although I recorded several loops with it I’ve never had the problem of the part getting chopped off. :thumb: So, there must be some difference even though it could be just the nature of the SMM being more sensitive to the recorded part. I’ve also found that timing my loop so that the part finished before I stop the loop helps. Often, I record the part at double tempo & 1 octave up so that I can then pitch down an octave. For free tempo stuff this works great & of course if the end is say 2 seconds before I stop the loop, it becomes 4 when I pitch the loop down. Still, a big wish is to be able to record across the loop without the part being chopped or glitched. :facepalm:I realy like the look of the boss slicer. My drummer has a loop station and he has told me that you dont get a gap at the end of the loop with it so I may just get a dedicated looper and just use the haz for delays.That gap still bugs me though!! why!!! I think ehx should let us know!! apart from that my haz is my best friend!
June 8, 2010 at 3:12 pm #102330The Ghost of Sim TutMemberI do not have this gap problem with the SMMH.
Sadly I find that EHX pedals do not behave the same from product to product. I do love this pedal though. Looping the delayed sounds is a big deal.
June 8, 2010 at 5:18 pm #103008Folkstone57MemberQuote:Quote:Quote:Hi! I found that with mine also. At first I thought it may be a fault as I was used to doing loops on a 202 sampler(with a 202 you edit out the gap) I have found that with practice you can get it so it loops good and if your playing in a band situation it wouldnt be noticed ( as long as you got it in time haha!)Hello,
I would think using it live would present it’s own problems since I’ve only recorded with mine & it usually takes a few tries to get the part I’m recording to not get chopped at the loop. I just bought a BOSS Slicer & although I recorded several loops with it I’ve never had the problem of the part getting chopped off. :thumb: So, there must be some difference even though it could be just the nature of the SMM being more sensitive to the recorded part. I’ve also found that timing my loop so that the part finished before I stop the loop helps. Often, I record the part at double tempo & 1 octave up so that I can then pitch down an octave. For free tempo stuff this works great & of course if the end is say 2 seconds before I stop the loop, it becomes 4 when I pitch the loop down. Still, a big wish is to be able to record across the loop without the part being chopped or glitched. :facepalm:I realy like the look of the boss slicer. My drummer has a loop station and he has told me that you dont get a gap at the end of the loop with it so I may just get a dedicated looper and just use the haz for delays.That gap still bugs me though!! why!!! I think ehx should let us know!! apart from that my haz is my best friend!
Well, I highly recommend the Slicer, it’s without a doubt for me the best Boss pedal I’ve ever used. It also has MIDI SYNC which for me has worked great. I’ve recorded a lot of parts on previous projects & not had a single problem although I do find giving it a few measures to sync up works best. I agree that it world be nice if an EHX Brainiac would address the glitch problem on the SMM. I hope this gives enough of a hint……….
June 8, 2010 at 5:20 pm #102311Folkstone57MemberQuote:I do not have this gap problem with the SMMH.Sadly I find that EHX pedals do not behave the same from product to product. I do love this pedal though. Looping the delayed sounds is a big deal.
I’m not sure what you mean here. Are both statements related or do you mean that you are the lucky person who has a SMM without the glitch/chopped off audio problem?
June 8, 2010 at 10:29 pm #102254The Ghost of Sim TutMemberQuote:Quote:I do not have this gap problem with the SMMH.Sadly I find that EHX pedals do not behave the same from product to product. I do love this pedal though. Looping the delayed sounds is a big deal.
I’m not sure what you mean here. Are both statements related or do you mean that you are the lucky person who has a SMM without the glitch/chopped off audio problem?
Well, I saw a thread about the SMMH having a gap on the loop. Since I own this pedal, I decided to enter the conversation. I opened by stating my position that I do not have the same problem with the pedal that others in this thread do have, specifically the gap between end/start of a loop. It was demonstrated by tweedsuitcase that he definitely has this gap as he played a sustained keyboard note and it dropped out. So I tried mine in a similar way and it faded into the start of the loop just fine, without that glitch. I thought it might be interesting to share my experience so people don’t think that this is necessarily what its supposed to do. It also changed my point of view that the people having this problem just have no rhythm
. I mean, that still may be true, but clearly there is a glitch.
I segued into my next statement which alluded to my unfortunate experience that this, and other EHX products tend to differ in quality from one to the next. I own/have owned 13 EHX pedals and nearly half of them (six) had to be returned or replaced for quality issues, which is way more than the number of other pedals that have ever malfunctioned on me (zero). But that would be off-topic, so I brought it back around to the SMMH and summarized that regardless of some inconsistencies, the pedal’s great features, including the ability to loop sounds from delay modes, make it all worthwhile.
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