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February 10, 2010 at 4:33 am #79854John JMember
i am asking this mainly out of curiosity, but do you prefer to run a bright amp with your tone rolled off or do you just prefer a darker amp? the reason this is on my mind is because i have been trying like mad to decide which way i like more ever since i picked up a vox ac4tv – it is fairly bright but oh so sensitive to what your guitar is doing, the differences are fairly subtle when you are recording the amp but there is no denying them.
i think i tend towards the darker amp – rolling off the amp’s tone drastically minimizes the differences between pickups and slightly dampers the sensitivity to your guitar’s settings, but it also results in – i find – a smoother, mellower tone with less white noise. even with the treble rolled way back on your guitar, i generally find the bridge pickup (especially on strats) to be ear piercing compared to the others, and the brighter amp results in more noise from your pedals.
that being said, your guitar’s tone knob is generally more effective at masking 60 cycle hum from single coils, so each method has its merit when it comes to fighting noise.
discuss, i am curious how you all set things up.
February 10, 2010 at 8:01 am #107348julianModeratorI like Fenders. . . so brighter amps. Though I don’t run them super bright. I don’t roll off my tone on my guitar. I turn up the treble on the amp til I can’t stand it, then I turn it down a bit.
February 10, 2010 at 9:20 am #107350Ned FlandersModeratorI like twin reverbs with the bright off. BUT ,if I am playing an entirely clean song I will turn the bright on…I also play a Jaguar which has 1Meg pots and is particularly bright, way more so than a LP or stat or tele.
I also have the tone control disconected to make it even brighter so you could say I like brightness, then IO like to smother it with a big muff!LOL But I also have a few of my big muffs modded so they are brighter and more scooped at the same time, they retain all their low end but the highs come thru more, kinda like the BMPTW but brighter yet still scooped and muffled. its like I have one bright muff and one dark muff on in parallel actually.
Never play a dirt pedal into a fender amp with bright switches on,its horrific!
February 10, 2010 at 4:05 pm #107359DarkAxelParticipantI like amps where i don’t have to drastically make miracles with the EQ… my Tele is very bright and when it comes to EQ on my VC30, the EQ is almost straight
bass 12 o’clock, middle 1, treble 12
if the amp is bright as some of the fenders are, i rather turn the treble down a bit if i like the overall response of the amp.
however it depends on the guitar, too… I played 4 Fender tele’s into the same fender blues deluxe without any change of the straight EQ and some of them were like… plug and play there was no need to change anything. Some of them weren’t so cool, tho
February 10, 2010 at 6:27 pm #107362julianModeratorI play relatively dark guitars too btw. Most of my guitars have humbuckers or some sort of p-90 or lipstick p/u. I don’t have any fendery style guitars.
February 10, 2010 at 6:28 pm #107363TenSecondTedMemberI’m a treble addict (I have a Germanium OD AND a Screaming Bird for goodness sake!)
Then again, I play a Les Paul. I would hate to hear my set up through a strat!
February 10, 2010 at 11:17 pm #107366electro-melxModeratorI always have the tone on my bridge pup at about 6, so maybe that means I have the amp set bright… I’m not sure, but when I do it this way it seems to add a nice middley tone that I can’t get by adjusting the amps tone controls.
February 11, 2010 at 1:00 am #107370freekzilaMemberI like to keep my amp bright and roll my tone, it gives me a little more options
February 16, 2010 at 3:05 pm #107557remedyblueMemberQuote:i am asking this mainly out of curiosity, but do you prefer to run a bright amp with your tone rolled off or do you just prefer a darker amp? the reason this is on my mind is because i have been trying like mad to decide which way i like more ever since i picked up a vox ac4tv – it is fairly bright but oh so sensitive to what your guitar is doing, the differences are fairly subtle when you are recording the amp but there is no denying them.That AC4TV sounds at its best at 4 watts with vol and tone cranked. I like to play an SG though it for great bright rock tones and a Strat (OMG!) on the neck PU with tone rolled back for darked tones.
Its a very cool amp and sounds ball-out driving a 4×12 cab.
April 10, 2010 at 1:45 am #109156companymanParticipantI have recently changed my rig drastically, from a Les Paul into an Orange R-30 a very dark sounding rig that I was always trying to wring more treble out of, to a fantastic Epiphone Firebird VII with 3 mini-humbuckers into a vintage Musicman RD-50 amp a markedly brighter sound from both guitar and amp. I struggled with too much treble for a while, but when I dialed the eq in with the treble rolled off it effected the gain structure and presence too much. After dialing in my Black Finger compressor I found the rig sounded best on the bright channel with the treble rolled nearly all the way down and the bass on 8….a nice balance now.
April 10, 2010 at 2:48 am #109159ToonsterMemberI like dark guitars, but also bright, just where it’s necesarry.. And as a bassplayer always dark and deep for me^^
But I dont use tone-knobs on my guitars, I don’t even have tone-knobs on some of them^^
April 10, 2010 at 9:26 am #109167TheCapitalJMemberA couple of months ago I got my my tele deluxe. Yes it’s bright but it has humbuckers for a change, very singlecoilish humbuckers not as much pickup output as I expected
April 11, 2010 at 2:34 am #109189ToonsterMemberQuote:what do you have?My main electric guitar at the moment is a DeArmond, don’t even now the type;)
My main bass is a modified ’78 Fender Precision Bass, they put an ugly pickup at the bridge, but that made it pretty affordable^^
April 11, 2010 at 12:30 pm #109197remedyblueMemberSettings:
68 Bassman (jumped) Deep switch on, Vol 10, Treb 8, Bass 10, Bright switch on, Vol 10, Treb 8, Bass 10. BMPTW tone OFF wicker ON vol 10’oclock, sustain back.
Non-improvable tone.
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