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  • January 8, 2010 at 6:44 am #79659
    tjmc
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    I’ve got a vintage EHX Full Double Tracking pedal. Does anyone have an idea of the approximate value? I realize it’s gonna vary significantly depending on the buyer, but I’d like to trade it against a POG or HOG and need an idea of it’s worth. Thanks.

    January 8, 2010 at 12:57 pm #106201
    electro-melx
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    I’ve no idea to be honest, I’ve never seen one for sale … so it’s impossible to say.

    Like you say it’s very dependent on the buyer, if a collector is looking for one they might pay whatever you asked for it, but as player, I don’t know… I wouldn’t pay a great deal for one.

    January 8, 2010 at 3:02 pm #106206
    Kevin Demuth
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    i only remember seeing one on ebay UK in the last few years and i think it sold for around £90-100.

    if it’s in good condition then you may get around £100/$150 for it.

    there’s one for sale here for $165 which may give you an idea: http://www.studio1525.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1042&osCsid=5e9a8769c8a01eaa8f957f58353fe57a

    January 8, 2010 at 4:09 pm #106209
    danieldanger
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    ive seen them not sell for $100 on ebay, sitting in stores for $150, etc. theyre around, but not many people seem to be going after them.

    January 8, 2010 at 4:42 pm #106210
    Kevin Demuth
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    i dont understand, whats it do?

    it’s a simple doubling/slap back echo pedal;
    one repeat either at 50ms or 100ms (selected by the switch)

    eh_fulldoubletracking_001.jpg
    (picture from DiscoFreqs Effects Database website.)

    January 8, 2010 at 6:29 pm #106216
    electro-melx
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    ive seen them not sell for $100 on ebay, sitting in stores for $150, etc. theyre around, but not many people seem to be going after them.

    I guess it’s because it doesn’t do anything special, most people have a delay they could set to a very short delay time to get the same effect…. probably why it isn’t made anymore too.

    January 10, 2010 at 5:30 am #106267
    tjmc
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    Thanks for all the info. Seems like much more of a collector piece…I wonder how close the guts are to a Memory man? I’m sure if they where similiar (albeit much more limiting in the FDT) the demand might be a bit greater. Nonetheless…at least it looks hip.

    January 10, 2010 at 10:22 am #106272
    DarkAxel
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    Kevin Demuth – isn’t 50ms a little too much for double tracking effect?

    January 10, 2010 at 11:07 am #106275
    Kevin Demuth
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    Kevin Demuth – isn’t 50ms a little too much for double tracking effect?

    tell that to Electro-Harmonix! ;)

    in all honesty, knowing EHX delay pedals the stated delay time may not be EXACT, but 40-50ms seems about right to me; less than that and it may sound more (comb-)filtered than doubled.

    fwiw, i’ve got a rack delay unit where the ‘Doubling’ mode goes up to 225ms… and a chorus pedal with 56ms of pre-delay (which is great as a doubling effect).

    January 10, 2010 at 12:50 pm #106276
    DarkAxel
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    oh, ok, i was just wondering :) because when people try to recreate doubling effect live by micing amps in a certain distance from each other, they usually use really shorter tims… whatever :) i believe you

    January 10, 2010 at 1:05 pm #106278
    Kevin Demuth
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    oh, ok, i was just wondering :) because when people try to recreate doubling effect live by micing amps in a certain distance from each other, they usually use really shorter tims… whatever :) i believe you

    i’m not sure what you’re thinking of is a ‘doubling’ effect…

    from this article about double tracking vocals: http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr09/articles/doubletracking.htm

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    “The first, and most obvious, process was ADT, or automatic double-tracking, which was usually accomplished by using the playback-head monitor facility of a tape recorder to produce a short ‘slap-back’ delay. It’s this technique that creates the familiar effect that was used on countless early rock & roll records, and was famously exploited by artists such as John Lennon.

    You can create the ADT effect easily using modern technology. Simply add a digital delay to the vocal at around the same level as the original part, with a delay time of 80-120ms, and then turn the feedback control to minimum so that you get only one repeat.”

    January 11, 2010 at 6:22 am #106303
    DarkAxel
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    Well The Edge does it, doesn’t he? :) also John Petrucci was talking about it… whatever, just saying what i heard :) i must say – i don’t have any experience with other than real double tracking :D

    January 11, 2010 at 7:17 am #106304
    tjmc
    Member

    By the way, anyone know if there is a spot on these forums to actually talk swap/sales for EHX pedals? I don’t have a problem just reposting the pedal on Craigslist from time to time, but since the FDT pedal seems like more of a niche/collector type pedal that this would be the best place to trade or sell it. I certainly don’t want to abuse these forums if there’s not a spot on ’em designed for that so either way if someone could let me know it would be much appreciated.

    January 11, 2010 at 11:01 am #106306
    Kevin Demuth
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    By the way, anyone know if there is a spot on these forums to actually talk swap/sales for EHX pedals? I don’t have a problem just reposting the pedal on Craigslist from time to time, but since the FDT pedal seems like more of a niche/collector type pedal that this would be the best place to trade or sell it. I certainly don’t want to abuse these forums if there’s not a spot on ’em designed for that so either way if someone could let me know it would be much appreciated.

    no, when the forum began, it was decided this forum wouldn’t be a place for trades/sales between forum members.
    there were a few reasons behind this decision but i can’t remember all of them…
    i think one was something to do with not wanting people signing up to the forum JUST to sell their stuff – they want people here for the ‘right’ reasons.

    January 11, 2010 at 11:07 am #106308
    Kevin Demuth
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    oh, ok, i was just wondering :) because when people try to recreate doubling effect live by micing amps in a certain distance from each other, they usually use really shorter tims… whatever :) i believe you
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    Well The Edge does it, doesn’t he? :) also John Petrucci was talking about it… whatever, just saying what i heard :) i must say – i don’t have any experience with other than real double tracking :D

    from what i understand, the use of multiple microphones to capture a sound source (maybe with very short delays applied to reduce/remove phase issues) is NOT the same as automatic double tracking.

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