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Hi all,
This is my first post here. I’m a newbie in the stomp-boxes world, even though I have been playing classical guitar for 18 years. I own a Boss GT-10 which I’m now selling to get 5 EHX pedals, 3 of them being stereo: Cathedral, Electric Mistress and POG2.
I heard great things about these pedals running in stereo and this is a feature I’d really like to take advantage of. But I have only one amp (Blackstar HT5)…
I have a small home studio, really simple. A couple of audio interfaces with separated L/R inputs, which worked just fine with the GT-10 stereo line out. I’m hoping to be able to get a stereo thing going, somehow.
I could of course try different things once I have the EHX pedals, but since I don’t have them yet (they are crossing the Atlantic from US to Norway as I type…), some expert tips would be appreciated.
Cheers and thanks in advance!
WallaceQuote:I see no problem running in Stereo to the L/R recording interface. I do not typically run a stereo setup but when I do I have a Memory Man with Hazarai running into two inputs of my 10 input mixer so I can pan them wherever I want, or run straight to my M Audio breakout box to my computer. I would run from your guitar to the Pog to the Mistress to the Cathedral but that’s all a matter of preference.So you mean these stomp-boxes would be between the amp and the interface and still deliver? I assumed pedals had to be either before the amp or in the amp’s fx-loop to be heard right… But again, these will be my first stomp-boxes and therefore I have no experience to draw conclusions from.
If I understood it right, that means it would be ok to have these pedals between the amp and the cabinet..?
Anyway, what I need to confirm is the stereo setup…
Cheers and thanks for the reply!
Hm.. so let me see if I’m chewing all this info right…
For the sake of clarity, I’d like to be able to get a stereo signal since I’m getting 3 stereo-enabled pedals (which haven’t arrived yet btw). I want my amp (Blackstar HT-5) to come into this signal from somewhere, preferably having all the stereo pedals coming after the preamp. But since I don’t have a stereo fx-loop in the amp, I still have to find a way of getting the signal to split in true stereo.
I thought of doing something like this:
Guitar > Soul Preacher (comp) > Preamp (or Amp, for that matter) > Small Stone (phaser)* > mono/stereo signal splitter >
Pog (L) > E. Mistress (L) > Cathedral (L) > [???] > Audio Interface (L)
Pog (R) > E. Mistress (R) > Cathedral (R) > [???] > Audio Interface (R)The “[???]” is the part I’m confused about. I don’t have a mixer. Do I need one? Can’t I just connect everything in that order and skip the “[???]” part? Wouldn’t that work?
I’d rather have the effects already set while I’m recording, so that the signal already comes with the effects, rather than adding the effects later. I don’t think the later option would be possible anyway, since the effects will add so much dimension to the signal that it will affect my playing/composing. I can’t compose something meant to have all those octaves from POG and reverbs from Cathedral by playing it clean – I wouldn’t know what to play. Does it make sense?
Thanks for all your input so far guys, really appreciated!
Cheers,
WallaceJust a quick observation…
The Blackstar HT-5 has a balanced line-out which I have already used to record in mono. So I’m thinking that maybe it’s possible to split the signal of this line-out (with a normal mono-to-stereo splitter) and get this split signal to go through the pedals’ L/R inputs. Then directly to the interface L/R. It seems to make sense, but I can’t test it yet since I haven’t got the pedals…
Does it sound doable?
Quote:pog2 isnt stereo. and you should specify by saying stereo electric mistressOops, you got me there… I guess I assumed it was since the size was similar to the others.
So the POG2 would still come before the others then, not changing much on the diagram I made.
Well, I did say the Electric Mistress was stereo in my first post, but yes, will remember putting at least a “S.” before it next time. Cheers!
Quote:Just a quick observation…The Blackstar HT-5 has a balanced line-out which I have already used to record in mono. So I’m thinking that maybe it’s possible to split the signal of this line-out (with a normal mono-to-stereo splitter) and get this split signal to go through the pedals’ L/R inputs. Then directly to the interface L/R. It seems to make sense, but I can’t test it yet since I haven’t got the pedals…
Does it sound doable?
Yes, except you don’t need a stereo splitter, because your stereo electric mistress doesn’t need a stereo input, it takes a mono input and makes it stereo. The only stereo pedals that have stereo inputs are delays, reverbs, and pan pedals.
The downside to using your line-out is that you don’t get the sound of your power amp or speakers in the mix, only your pre-amp. If that bothers you (you’d have to try it out and see if you like it) then you’d want to put your stereo pedals after your microphone.
Oh, and as said, the POG2 is not stereo.
Quote:Quote:Just a quick observation…The Blackstar HT-5 has a balanced line-out which I have already used to record in mono. So I’m thinking that maybe it’s possible to split the signal of this line-out (with a normal mono-to-stereo splitter) and get this split signal to go through the pedals’ L/R inputs. Then directly to the interface L/R. It seems to make sense, but I can’t test it yet since I haven’t got the pedals…
Does it sound doable?
Yes, except you don’t need a stereo splitter, because your stereo electric mistress doesn’t need a stereo input, it takes a mono input and makes it stereo. The only stereo pedals that have stereo inputs are delays, reverbs, and pan pedals.
That’s great news!
Quote:The downside to using your line-out is that you don’t get the sound of your power amp or speakers in the mix, only your pre-amp. If that bothers you (you’d have to try it out and see if you like it) then you’d want to put your stereo pedals after your microphone.Oh, and as said, the POG2 is not stereo.
Yes, that’s a pity… I think I’ll have to make do with the line-out while I compose, since I live in a flat in the middle of town and it’s impossible for me to do a decent recording with a mic. When I’m ready to do the final takes I’ll find a way to get lost in a hut in the woods for a weekend and record what I need. Then I’ll put my Celestion V30 to good use!
Hm… effects after the mic would probably mean using a mixer and having the effects on the mixer’s fx-loop then, I suppose.
I think that’s all folks, thanks for all your help, I have a much better idea of what to do now. Can barely wait to get my hands on these great tone pieces!!!
Cheers,
Wallace
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