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  • April 28, 2009 at 11:14 am #78145
    strings2wood
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    This would be a very attractive addition for many analog delay users.
    Wondering if it’s a possibility in the future?
    Cheers.
    Simon in Melbourne.

    April 29, 2009 at 10:00 pm #96189
    strings2wood
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    Diamond Memory lane has tap tempo and the Memory lane 2 does.
    The latest (900) Malekko Echo’s have tap tempo as well.
    Analogman’s new Analog echo is rumoured to have a tap tempo option- I can’t confirm that though.

    BUT….if you check out the Proguitarshop.com’s videos section on their website, you can see them demonstrate the tap tempo on an analog delay. It seems it’s a feature that might become more of a standard feature rather than an option in the future, hence the enquiry.

    That’s why I’m asking if their is enough space/ or the possibility for the DMM or the DMM XO- it would DEFINITELY be icing on the cake for the best analog delay evailable. i.e. the DMM.

    April 29, 2009 at 10:37 pm #96193
    echobaseone
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    I believe the DMM is 100% analog circuitry, whereas the Memory Lane, Empress, etc. are hybrids. A digital “brain” an analog signal path…which is the only part you should really care about…
    Adding a digital brain to the DMM would mean a major overhaul.

    April 29, 2009 at 10:58 pm #96195
    strings2wood
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    Memory Lane is analog not hybrid.
    Not sure about the Empress, but the Memory lane is analog.

    April 30, 2009 at 3:28 am #96199
    strings2wood
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    This is from Diamond’s website:

    “The Memory Lane 2 is not a ‘hybrid delay’ or ‘analog voiced’ delay. Featuring NOS (new-old-stock) MN3005 BBD (bucket brigade delay) chips running at 15V the Memory Lane offers high headroom and superior sound quality with a 100% analog signal path.”

    April 30, 2009 at 4:07 am #96200
    asatbluesboy
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    echobaseone’s actually hit the nail on the head. I quote him: “analog signal path…which is the only part you should really care about…”

    April 30, 2009 at 6:04 am #96202
    strings2wood
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    Quote:
    This is from Diamond’s website:

    “The Memory Lane 2 is not a ‘hybrid delay’ or ‘analog voiced’ delay. Featuring NOS (new-old-stock) MN3005 BBD (bucket brigade delay) chips running at 15V the Memory Lane offers high headroom and superior sound quality with a 100% analog signal path.”

    um………..with a 100% analog signal path.

    There. Is that the only part”” you are talking about. Nowhere does it say digital brain etc.

    Not sure I get your point. There.

    April 30, 2009 at 7:24 am #96203
    electro-melx
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    Quote:
    Quote:
    This is from Diamond’s website:

    “The Memory Lane 2 is not a ‘hybrid delay’ or ‘analog voiced’ delay. Featuring NOS (new-old-stock) MN3005 BBD (bucket brigade delay) chips running at 15V the Memory Lane offers high headroom and superior sound quality with a 100% analog signal path.”

    um………..with a 100% analog signal path.

    There. Is that the only part”” you are talking about. Nowhere does it say digital brain etc.

    Not sure I get your point. There.

    The point is that it’s an analogue delay with a digital ‘controler’ every part of the pedal used to create sound is analogue so it has a ‘100% analogue signal path’ but the tap tempo control is digital, it has to be, it’s not possible to do otherwise. It’s a very clever design and not something you can just ‘add’ to a deluxe memory man circuit. Diamond do the same thing on their Empress tremolo, The audio signal path is analog, but the tremolo effect is controlled digitally via opto technology. All clever stuff and very expensive!! If you want these kind of features you might as well use a digital delay where you can pretty much doing anything for a good price.

    April 30, 2009 at 11:05 am #96208
    strings2wood
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    ok. Now that I understand the way it’s explained.
    I guess it’s not an option.
    Now it’s either a smaller DMM, OR a Memory Lane before they become redundant.
    Thanks for answering,

    April 30, 2009 at 11:46 am #96210
    electro-melx
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    ok. Now that I understand the way it’s explained.
    I guess it’s not an option.
    Now it’s either a smaller DMM, OR a Memory Lane before they become redundant.
    Thanks for answering,

    No problem, I’m not 100% sure how it actually works, but it must be something along those lines…..I think moog might do something similar with some of their stuff. It’s all a bit technically over my head to be honest. :D

    April 30, 2009 at 1:35 pm #96212
    Kevin Demuth
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    ok. Now that I understand the way it’s explained.
    I guess it’s not an option.
    Now it’s either a smaller DMM, OR a Memory Lane before they become redundant.
    Thanks for answering,

    as has been mentioned, there are analogue delays with tap tempo functions so it is possible. the way this is implemented is a mystery to most of us though…

    who’s to say how much is ‘digitally controlled’?

    i don’t have the technical knowledge to back this up ( ;) ) but it is quite possible that you could have a standard analogue delay, but then at the part in the circuit where the delay time potentiometer would go, you could insert a ‘digital brain’ to allow for your tap tempo options.

    April 30, 2009 at 3:34 pm #96214
    asatbluesboy
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    I realized the “there” in my previous post was making me sound like a schmuck, so I’ve edited it out. :)

    And yes, that’s the idea: digital control over an analog signal path. There’s even tube amps that use this kind of stuff nowadays (Zentone), so you can have a ridiculous amount of presets with drastical changes at the tip of your toes. ‘Tis a good use of new technology, I tell you.

    May 2, 2009 at 3:56 pm #96266
    John J
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    ‘Tis a good use of new technology, I tell you.

    I am so excited to see what advances the next ten years bring. So excited, in fact, you will likely never know just how excited I am.

    FWIW, if you get the big-box DMM you can adjust the delay rate to your liking with your toes. It is the only delay I can match to the song’s tempo without using a tap, the knob is nicely voiced so it’s crazy easy to find the right beat.

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