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  • #77732
    bigmahon
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    Hi everyone,

    Just bought a new 12ay7 mic pre, and it is humming quite loudly. Any ideas what this could be? Power supply? One of the tubes? I tested it with more than one microphone, and it hummed with all of them. I am using the 1/4″ out into a MOTU firewire interface.

    Thanks for your help.

    #93220
    The EH Man
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    Pull the tubes, one at a time and see if it stops.

    #93224
    bigmahon
    Participant

    Thanks for the speedy reply. This may be a stupid question, but are you saying pull out and re-insert each tube one at a time?

    #93227
    The EH Man
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    Quote:
    Thanks for the speedy reply. This may be a stupid question, but are you saying pull out and re-insert each tube one at a time?

    Pull the 1st tube and let it warm up. See if there’s any hum. Then put the tube back in and pull the 2nd tube. It’s possible one of the 12AY7s is causing the hum. I found that in a friend’s preamp.

    #93239
    bigmahon
    Participant

    Couple of things. I pulled both tubes one at a time, and the hum stopped each time. In other words, with only one tube in (regardless which one) there was no hum. I also noticed that you said “one of the 12ay7’s”. I have 1 12ay7 and 1 12au7. This shouldn’t matter though, right?

    Thanks again for your continued support

    #93243
    The EH Man
    Moderator

    There’s a good possibility it’s the 12AY7. You can replace it with a 12AU7 to see if that takes care of the hum.

    #93304
    bigmahon
    Participant

    Hi again,

    The problem appears to be with the 1/4″ out jack. When I used the XLR out the unit did not hum.

    Do you recommend using the XLR out to 1/4″ in on the back of my MOTU interface?

    #210323
    gonguinguen
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    Hey there! I know this is a very old post, but I’ve recently bought a EHX Mic Pre and I’ve found myself with the same “problem” you describe. It’s not a problem per se. It happens that both outputs of this pedal are balanced. The hum noise appears when you you use the balanced 1/4” output and plug into an unbalanced 1/4” input. To eliminate that hum, you have to use a balanced cable (stereo jacks on both ends) and go into a balanced input.

    Now, I want to process my voice using a lot of effects pedals (all of them use unbalanced inputs/outputs). The microphone goes directly to the EHX Mic Pre, and I cannot go from there directly to another effect pedal (because of the hum noise). To achieve this without noise, I have to take the balanced out from the Mic Pre and go into a compressor (or a mixer with balanced inputs). In my case, I go into a DBX compressor, that has an unbalanced output. So I use that unbalanced output to go to the effects pedal. In this way, I don’t get any hum noise.

    I’ve tried making my own cable TRS –> TS but it didn’t help, the hum noise is still there.
    So far I’ve found that the only way to eliminate the hum is go from the Mic Pre to a balanced input on a mixer or whatever device that offers an unbalanced out.

    Hope this helps.
    Let me know if you can think of another way to go out from the Mic Pre directly to an unbalanced input without that ugly hum noise :/

    #211244
    BL0thR
    Participant

    @gonguinguen I registered just to tell you this! I had the same issues and your post helped me understand what I needed to do. SO to get the benefit of having the 1/4 inch output with the level control, you dont have to go into a mixer or compressor, I have found that a Hum Eliminator, something like the EbTech hum eliminator that changes the balanced to unbalanced and vice versa works like a charm. They dont even have power, just transistors, super simple device, plug from the out of the 12ay7 to the in of the ebtech, and the out of the ebtech to the balanced/unbalanced, whatever you need of the interface or recorder.

    #211250
    gonguinguen
    Participant

    Thank you so much for taking the time to register and share this information with me, I really appreciate it! It’s great to hear that my post was helpful to you, and I’m glad you’ve found a solution for the hum issue with the EbTech Hum Eliminator. I hadn’t thought of using one of those, so this is very valuable advice!

    If possible, could you share a link to the specific EbTech device you’re using? I just want to make sure I’m looking at the right one. I found this one on Amazon:
    EBTech Hum Eliminator is this the one you’re referring to?

    Thanks again for your help!

    #211255
    BL0thR
    Participant

    tesd

    #211256
    BL0thR
    Participant

    i keep trying to answer here and the replies are not showing up

    #211257
    BL0thR
    Participant

    yes that unit is the one, it will work.

    #211258
    BL0thR
    Participant

    sorry for so many replies, lol, the other issue (pasted from Joel Hamilton “…is that you really should’t be using the 1/4″ output, because you are actually going through an IC based buffer amp, rather than getting the actual tube goodness straight to tape (or DAW).

    The 1/4” output is controlled by the knob on the right, and the pre itself is controlled with a single knob: the one on the left, for an all tube tape path… No IC’s, just great discrete tube goodness. The designer of this pre is really a creative, amazing designer, and this pre shows off his ability to make something at a price point, and have it actually rock! Even the “soft start” function for the phantom is unique, especially to this price point!”

    #211259
    gonguinguen
    Participant

    Hi! Thanks for following up on this issue.
    I read a post by the designer of the EHX Mic Pre a while back but I haven’t been able to find it. In that post the designer explained that, as the quote you shared mentions, one should only use the 1/4 output for monitoring.

    My intention is to process the output of the Mic Pre with a series of effects pedals, keeping the set portable and easy to move around. That’s why I tried to use the 1/4 output to send directly to the effects pedals. But in view of all the above, I think I will continue to use the Mic Pre’s XLR output to send to the DBX compressor and then to the pedals. It’s less portable but the sound achieved is exquisite 😀

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