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December 10, 2008 at 6:48 am #77379dsl1Member
Hello,
Is the Stereo Polyphase a 6-Stage, 4-Stage or 2-Stage Phaser?
Thanks
December 10, 2008 at 7:12 am #88871electro-melxModeratorI’m pretty sure the original Polyphase was a 6-stage phaser, I expect the new stereo version is the same.
December 10, 2008 at 7:33 am #88872dsl1MemberThanks so much
December 10, 2008 at 5:56 pm #88877dsl1MemberHi,
Just wanted to update this thread (for future generations).
I emailed EHX & they wrote back that it is a 4-Stage Phaser.
Thanks – I like this new forum.
:rawk:
December 10, 2008 at 6:37 pm #88878Fender&EHX4everModeratorInteresting. I read somewhere that Mike Biegel had a hand in designing it; but I don’t know for sure. He designed the original Mu-Tron envelope filter, the Q-Tron series, and the Bi-Filter.
December 10, 2008 at 7:10 pm #88881janusEffectModeratorFWIW, the number of stages actually isn’t that important. It’s my understanding that it’s largely arbitrary unless you’re looking within the same brand, and even then, it’s not a perfect guide. It does mean something, but the value and shift of each stage will vary from one circuit design to another.
Even phasers with the same number of stages won’t sound alike in terms of depth. My favorite comparison: the MXR Phase 90 versus the EHX Small Stone. Both are 4-stage phasers. But the Small Stone offers some control over feedback (via the Color switch), and that’s why it can get so much deeper. :thumb:
I’ve known bassists who have used 10 and 12 stage phasers that didn’t sound as deep as the Small Stone, to their ears. However, those other phasers do offer a very different character to their sound, although it doesn’t have much to do with the number of stages.
December 10, 2008 at 8:01 pm #88886electro-melxModeratorQuote:Hi,Just wanted to update this thread (for future generations).
I emailed EHX & they wrote back that it is a 4-Stage Phaser.
Thanks – I like this new forum.
:rawk:
cool, I like this forum to!!
interesting, can anyone confirm that the original is 6 stage?
I had a two stage phaser once and it was very cool….and yeah, I have no idea what it means!!
December 10, 2008 at 8:03 pm #88887dsl1MemberGreat Info – Thanks!
I got the Polyphase & it’s great :love:
December 10, 2008 at 8:05 pm #88888Fender&EHX4everModeratorQuote:interesting, can anyone confirm that the original is 6 stage?I had a two stage phaser once and it was very cool….and yeah, I have no idea what it means!!
This site claims that it is: http://www.fenderrhodes.com/cgi-bin/products-display?id=5
Howard Davis designed the circuit, so he’d be able to tell us for certain.
December 10, 2008 at 8:09 pm #88889dsl1MemberQuote:Quote:cool, I like this forum to!!
interesting, can anyone confirm that the original is 6 stage?
I had a two stage phaser once and it was very cool….and yeah, I have no idea what it means!!
Here’s a link I found that says the original is 6-Stage:
December 10, 2008 at 8:10 pm #88890dsl1MemberWow!
I guess you beat me to it!!!
December 11, 2008 at 12:48 pm #88929StephengilesMemberQuote:FWIW, the number of stages actually isn’t that important. It’s my understanding that it’s largely arbitrary unless you’re looking within the same brand, and even then, it’s not a perfect guide. It does mean something, but the value and shift of each stage will vary from one circuit design to another.Even phasers with the same number of stages won’t sound alike in terms of depth. My favorite comparison: the MXR Phase 90 versus the EHX Small Stone. Both are 4-stage phasers. But the Small Stone offers some control over feedback (via the Color switch), and that’s why it can get so much deeper. :thumb:
I’ve known bassists who have used 10 and 12 stage phasers that didn’t sound as deep as the Small Stone, to their ears. However, those other phasers do offer a very different character to their sound, although it doesn’t have much to do with the number of stages.
There was a mod to make the Color (Uggggh – USAian spelling!!) variable in Craig Anderton’s Device magazine back in the 1980s. Mark Hammer has scans of these on his site.
Somewhere in here http://hammer.ampage.org/?cmd=lt&xid;=&fid;=&ex;=&pg=10
See page 5 in DEVICE 11
December 9, 2009 at 12:21 am #105020petejtMemberDoes anyone know how many stages the Worm has?
December 11, 2009 at 7:57 am #105177dsl1MemberI believe it’s a 2-Stage Phaser but I’m not 100% sure.
December 11, 2009 at 8:13 am #105178puretubeMemberQuote:Does anyone know how many stages the Worm has?Yes, I know… :
The WORM = 3 stages
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